Two Psychologists Four Beers

About the show

Two psychologists drink at least four beers while discussing news and controversies in science, academia, and beyond.

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  • Episode 23: Slow-Form Journalism (with Daniel Engber)

    June 5th, 2019  |  57 mins 2 secs
    concussions, imposter syndrome, marathons, progress bar, replication crisis, science journalism, wind-chill factor

    Journalist Daniel Engber joins Mickey and Yoel to talk about the evolving state of science journalism, including what he hopes are lasting improvements. He also talks about his own reporting on the replication crisis in psychology and concussions in sport.

  • Episode 22: Blend of Darkness (with Brent Roberts)

    May 22nd, 2019  |  1 hr 29 mins
    5httlpr, coddling of the american mind, conscientiousness, personality, replication crisis, screen-time, self-control, senior scholars

    Yoel and Mickey welcome personality psychologist Brent Roberts from the University of Illinois to the podcast. In a far-ranging conversation, Brent holds no punches sharing his thoughts about the state of psychology.

  • Episode 21: Perils of Privilege

    April 24th, 2019  |  1 hr 6 mins
    bank of mom and dad, bidets, call-out culture, dunning-kruger effect, free will, guilt and shame, oppression olympics, privilege

    Yoel and Mickey discuss the pros and cons of the concept of privilege: the unearned, sometimes invisible conditions of a person’s life that give them advantages that others might not have.

  • Episode 20: Apostasy and Dissent (with Sarah Haider)

    March 27th, 2019  |  1 hr 1 min
    anti-muslim prejudice, apostasy, atheism, dissent, ex-muslims, islamophobia, twitter

    Yoel and Mickey talk with Sarah Haider, the co-founder and Executive Director of Ex-Muslims of North America, an organization that advocates for the acceptance of religious dissent and supports those who leave Islam.

  • Episode 19: Two Normies Four Beers

    February 27th, 2019  |  1 hr 5 mins
    4chan, kill all normies, political polarization, quilette, tumblr, viral outrage

    Yoel and Mickey discuss Kill All Normies, a book about the online culture wars and the rise of political polarization. Plus, what was it like attending the Quillette Social in Toronto?

  • A Schedule Update (Shomer F*cking Sabbatical)

    February 6th, 2019  |  3 mins 46 secs
    #fullprofessor, housekeeping, schedule, update

    We are going to be on a one-episode-a-month schedule till May.

  • Episode 18: What Science and the Humanities Offer Each Other (with Edward Slingerland)

    January 30th, 2019  |  1 hr 18 mins
    effort, evidence, humanities, intoxication, language, post-modernism, science, spontaneity, wu-wei

    Yoel and Mickey welcome Distinguished Professor of Asian Studies, Edward (Ted) Slingerland from the University of British Columbia to the podcast. Ted discusses what the sciences can offer the humanities, but also how the humanities can enrich science.

  • Episode 17: Why Trump Won

    January 2nd, 2019  |  1 hr 5 mins
    election, patreon, politics, trump

    Yoel and Mickey discuss Identity Crisis, a new book about the 2016 US presidential election. Plus: Patreon bans provocative internet personality; should free-speech advocates worry?

  • Episode 16: How Polarized Are We? (with Anne Wilson)

    December 19th, 2018  |  1 hr 9 mins
    free speech, metoo, polarization, tattoos

    Yoel and Mickey sit down with Anne Wilson of Wilfrid Laurier University to discuss free speech, the Lindsay Shepherd case, political polarization, #MeToo, and more.

  • Episode 15: Just When You Think You're Out

    December 5th, 2018  |  1 hr 5 mins
    conservatism, diversity statements, free speech, liberal bias, psychology

    Yoel and Mickey discuss two mini-controversies recently in the news: 1) Should equity, diversity, and inclusion statements be required from academic job candidates? 2) Are psychologists disproportionately likely to argue that free speech is in crisis on campus? If so, why?

  • Episode 14: Vices (with Elizabeth Page-Gould)

    November 21st, 2018  |  1 hr 14 mins
    alcohol, cannabis, health, pornography, relationships, spontaneity, vices

    Yoel and Mickey have their first repeat guest as Liz Page-Gould joins them to talk vices. Weed, booze and porn are all on the table (well, not literally) as we take on some popular vices.

  • Episode 13: What's Wrong with the IAT? (with Jesse Singal)

    November 7th, 2018  |  1 hr 44 secs
    implicit association test, moral outrage, science journalism, social media

    Journalist Jesse Singal joins Mickey and Yoel to talk about the state of science journalism, what he thinks is wrong with how people interpret the Implicit Association Test (IAT), and the pros and cons of moral outrage.

  • Episode 12: Everybody Hates Social Media

    October 24th, 2018  |  1 hr 3 mins
    facebook, open science, outrage, social media, twitter

    Mickey and Yoel take on social media. What are the upsides and downsides of being on social media, particularly Twitter? Why does Mickey ban himself from social media for most of the day? Would the open science movement have happened without social media? Bonus: when is it a good idea to give voice to the voiceless?

  • Episode 11: No Such Thing as Bad Publicity?

    October 10th, 2018  |  1 hr 1 min
    beaver fever, media, op-ed, perverse incentives, press releases, sex doll brothel, sharing science

    Yoel and Mickey discuss whether and how scientists should publicize their work. Should scientists issue press releases about their findings? Should they write op-ed columns to communicate directly with the public? Do scientists have an obligation to share their work with the public, or does self-promotion involve too many perverse incentives?

  • Episode 10: Conservative Social Psychologist Wanted (with Clay Routledge)

    September 26th, 2018  |  1 hr 13 mins
    academia, intellectual diversity, meaning, politics, psychology, religion

    Yoel and Mickey welcome psychologist Clay Routledge to the show. Clay discusses what it's like to be a non-liberal in social psychology, his experiences growing up in Côte d’Ivoire and Missouri, and his book "Supernatural: Death, Meaning, and the Power of the Invisible World."

  • Episode 9: Giving the Finger (with Alice Dreger)

    September 12th, 2018  |  1 hr 50 secs
    activism, galilean personality, intellectual dark web, newspapers, research ethics, social justice, truth

    Yoel and Mickey welcome author, journalist, historian, and bioethicist Alice Dreger to the show. Alice discusses how her upbringing, her academic background, and her own Galilean personality led her to piss so many people off in the service of serving both truth and justice.